MUT Men Episode #13 – June 20th, 2016

 

ThatDudeSly, Gutfoxx and Wyza all sit down and discuss Madden 17 including features we’d like to see, legends and other things we think should be improved upon. The 4th of July promo and ROTY promo are discussed with twitch drama and coin selling at the end.

Our channels:

https://youtube.com/gutfoxx

https://youtube.com/thatdudesly

https://www.youtube.com/user/WyzaTV

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq0IeVd4b51gALjC0kmW4kw

MUT Men Episode #10 – May 31st, 2016

 

Gutfoxx and ThatDudeSly talk about the Memorial Day Promo and how it might be one of the best promos of the year and if a high overall non-sellable elite is the way to go in the future for Madden. The Salary Cap tourney and Sly’s experience with it. Scammers/impersonators of content creators on the sub and wrap up with talk of Golden Tickets and Boss cards from this past weekend.

Our channels:

https://youtube.com/gutfoxx

https://youtube.com/thatdudesly

Gutfoxx’s guide to the Run and Shoot Offense Madden 16

This is the hardest playbook to master in Madden and you will throw a lot of interceptions when you are learning it. Do not expect quick results but do not be discouraged. It will come with time.

The Run and Shoot playbook is based completely on reading the defense pre-snap, post-snap and figuring out what your opponent is doing. So paying attention to his defense is paramount. You can not go into zombie mode and just throw the ball to a route, because either it’s going to break funny on you or you’ll make the wrong read. The option routes break depending on what coverage is called so it’ll take extra time to learn them but having the knowledge of what your WRs are doing to take advantage of coverages is very advantageous.

The only defense I’ve struggled against with this is a cover 3 nanoer that can stop the inside zone. If you are facing this very common defense, you need to beat it the way you do with a more traditional offense, flat routes and quick passes. Luckily most of the Run and Shoot has an RB blocking so the concepts aren’t reliant on an RB catching the pass when you need him to block the nano along with slide protection.

Please see this post on how to read defenses, you will need to know this to succeed with this offense.

This playbook needs very specific personnel to work.

I suggest 90 LP style for the added accuracy,  pass blocking and route running. The route running is key.

QB – No specific archetype. Get the best one you can afford. Throw power and accuracy is needed but accuracy will be boosted by LP. Mobility is a big plus against drop-8 coverages.

RB – Ideally a rotation of good backs. Your main should have good pass blocking, speed, all around solid stats. A speed back for arrow routes, a 3rd down receiving back and a power back for FB dives and the like.

FB – Not used in this playbook except kickoffs/kick returns and goal line. Go cheap here.

Wide receivers are the most important part of this playbook. You’ll always have 4 on the field so good depth at each spot is needed for fatigue reasons.

WR #1 – Tall spec catch guy, some speed. Needs to be able to stretch the defense. Run blocking for inside zone is a plus.

WR #2 – Same as #1.

WR #3 – SPEED (high 90s), Route Running (91 or more so LP over 90 means >96 RR) Combine Cooks is the ideal here.

WR #4 – Same as #3 (MVP Tavon Austin is very good here)

TE – Not used in this playbook except in kickoffs/kick returns and goal line.

Offensive line – Pass blocking, awareness and mobility is needed in that order. But with 90 LP you get +5 boost to pass blocking. So having a slightly better run blocker than pass blocker is okay. I would suggest having some backup o-linemen because they can get tired quickly in this offense.

Here is the artwork to help you visualize every play

HOW TO READ THIS GUIDE

Look at the play art in the link above or on your practice field. I’ve listed how each of them break against the different coverages. If I say “Cover 4 – Curl” Then in the option pattern, the player is running a curl route instead of the other choices presented. If I want you to audible I will say it.

And there is a lot of crossover between formations with the route combos they offer. The option routes behave the same no matter if you are in Pistol or Shotgun, just know what they do and you should be set when scrolling through menus.

Pistol Trips Open

Levels Switch

-Glitch against press man 2 or any man coverage. Best play in the game against man coverage IMO.

-Audible Drag inside Trips WR

-Audible Swing HB right (clearout of MLB)

-Middle WR has unbumpable crazy separation route. Need Speed and Route running. Combine Cooks is amazing here with LP style.

Four Verticals (hot route)

-Audible backside to a drag route.

-If you see one high free safety the middle WR should be open once it passes the yellow zones in cover 3. If they audible extra defenders deep, throw the drag.

PA Boot (hot route)

-levels concept. Find the most open WR crossing the field

Slot Corner

-A good “Sail” Concept (streak, corner, flat) but the funky corner route I’ve seen beat man at times although it’s not an amazing concept against it.

-Audible Streak Far Trips WR. Against press man, Audible RB to Check and release and inside Trips WR to Slant. Motion Middle WR in then snap so not pressed. Check and release can be great if LB assigned to RB gets engaged with OL.

PA Verticals

Cover 4

-Audible, Swing HB right

-Motion lone streak in

-Hit WR when it crosses formation

Cover 2

-Hit middle WR in the post

Cover 3

-Audible Streak Inside WR

-Audible Curl Far Right WR

-Audible Block HB

-Touchdown if defense doesn’t adjust and you read safety well.

Runs:

Read Option

-Watch the DE and if he hesitates hold A to give to RB.

-IMO Read option is dead with mobile QBs. DE doesn’t bite at high levels of competition any more. You just have dive here which is only okay.

HB Dive

-With a spread defense I’ve seen some very good success with this play. Need to be quick through hole though because wide defenses collapse very hard.

HB Counter

-Another okay run. Counters just develop too slow this year with fast defenders. Haven’t had great success with this run.

Pistol Trips 4WR

61 X Choice

Cover 4

Far left WR – Out route – Good choice – Only 4 yards though

Middle WR – In route – longer to develop and can be tight window. Only throw if user chases in route.

Far right has a 1 on 1. SS stays with in route

-Read high low if you don’t hit out route immediately

Cover 3

Far left WR – Out route – Good choice depending on flat coverage

Middle WR – In route – meh, 2 hook zones make it hard to squeeze.

Far right has a 1 on 1

Short in route for a couple yards works.

Cover 2

DESTROYS IT – Everything is set up to get the middle WR free on the post route

Far left WR – Streak

Middle Trips WR – Post – Hit it when it gets open across the middle. Pass lead up.

If heat’s coming quick, hit short route.

Cover 2 man

Same routes as cover 2 zone. Streak on left, Post in Middle

Audible drag close trips WR and hit him

Hit post route if they get a good release. And even if they don’t with the speed and RR you should get separation between the safeties.

Against Mike Scrape (guide created before patch)

Throw far left.

-If they audible them to flat route, WR goes on auto streak for TD.

WR on left only runs slant when there is no underneath coverage like engage 8. And only against cover 3 or 4 over the top coverage, any hook or flats take him out of his hot slant.

60 Slide – Smart Route Trips Option routes for better depth (on 1st and 10 or equivalent)

Cover 2

Streaks on outside

Post route in center is money (remember to smart route) Float pass over MLB

Cover 2 man

Lone WR – Curl

Wide trips WR – Streak

Near Trips WR – Post

Middle Trips WR – Drag route – audible it.

Cover 3

Lone WR – streak

Near Trips – streak

Outside trips curl for curl flat combo.

Streak in seam is risky but better yards.

Curl flat combo is easy money if you read it correctly but fewer yards than seam route.

Cover 4

Lone WR – Curl

Wide Trips – Curl

Near Trips – Curl

Not the greatest against cover 4 but the curls all provide an outlet underneath the coverage.

60 Go – Not the best

Cover 2

Middle Trips WR – Post Route – Smart route for deeper post, pass lead up.

Cover 2 Man

Middle Trips WR – Post Route – Smart route for deeper post, pass lead up

Cover 3

Middle Trips WR – Seam route

Cover 4

Middle Trips WR – Curl route – Curl Flat combo.

Curl Flat Corner

Streak B – Sail Concept, not a sharp breaking corner route unfortunately but it goes deep and beats zone coverages. Just takes a little bit more to develop making it easier to user.

Z Spot

Streak B – Sail Concept – much sharper than curl flat above but shallower. Smart route for better depth.

Middle Slant

C-Route against man

Curl flat combo on right to beat zone

I’ve come to like this play. It’s better out of the shotgun sets though due to the arrow route from the HB there.

Pistol Spread

60 H Y Option

Motion WR on the short pattern to other side to create trips

Cover 2

A WR (post/in choice) – Post route – Hit it with Pass lead up and you have a TD

Y WR – Drag

Cover 2 Man

A WR – Post route

Y WR – out route

Cover 3

A WR – Square In

Y WR – drag

Cover 4

A WR – Square In

Y WR – non-motioned: hitch, motioned: drag

60 X Option

Cover 2

X receiver – Streak

Hit WR going for middle with middle lead to split the safeties or outside right WR, Chose based on safety position.

Cover 2 man

X receiver – slant

Hit either of the crossers as they should get separation from their men going across the field.

Cover 3

X receiver – Slant

Hit WR in seam

-or hit underneath drag. Or wait for outside slant and bullet it between defenders. It’s risky though. Need to throw the ball as the WR is crossing behind the DB/LB in the yellow zones or the other one will pick it.

Cover 4

X WR – Hitch – Not terrible if the flat zone doesn’t get underneath too quick. Not ideal though.

Cover 0 Blitz

X WR – Streak

Fade Smash – Against cover 4 only

Streak Both left WRs, can drag far right WR if you want something quick.

Hit crossing patterns underneath cover 4

RNS Switch Dig

Streak inside switch route, drag inside WR on other side. – Wait until crosser gets behind cover 4 for auto TD.

RNS Post Drag

Streak Middle right WR

Slant far right

Wait until far left WR crosses formation – large gain

MOVING ONTO SHOTGUN SETS

GUN SETS HAVE VERY SIMILAR PLAYS TO PISTOL, I WON’T RELIST THEM AS THE OPTIONS BREAK THE SAME

Gun Trips HB Weak – Inside Zone, Option routes from above

Smash

This play has a routes that beat every coverage in game.

C-Route and Arrow route for man. (Fast HB on arrow to beat LB to sideline needed)

Audible – Streak inside trips WR to beat zone coverage with corner route.

PA Read

Effective with an overaggressive user at Safety. The Far right route should get open deep against man otherwise the underneath routes are okay.

Corner Strike

Similar look to smash just with 2 c-routes now.

PA WR In

Streak middle trips WR. –Destroys cover 4 with enough time. You all should know this play by now.

Inside Zone

We have very few runs in this playbook but this one is the best in the game and makes the whole thing tick. This will be the basis of this whole Gun Trips HB Weak formation. Run this then the option routes talked about above in the Pistol Sets

-Run blocking WRs are a must for inside zone. Sub in or get some that can do it all.

HB Screen

Self-explanatory – Should be used once a game to keep user honest.

Singleback Spread

PA Slot Crosses – Crossing patterns should be open against most coverages. Throw the one away from user defender.

61 X Choice

See above

60 Go

See above but the motion causes a very fast flat route.

Very nice in combo with the 61 X choice because it mixes up the user.

Flanker Dig

Streak Inside switch route for auto TD against cover 4.

Arrow route to HB is really good.

0-1 Trap

Great run against spread defenses.

Singleback Trips WR

PA FL Stretch

Levels concept again.

Let me know if you guys find anything else in this playbook. Thanks for reading guy!

Auction house series – Make money off position hero sets

The video got a little choppy today for some reason. I suggest you just read below instead of watching today.

If you did what I said 2 weeks ago and bought the players I told you to you are rolling in coins like a pig in slop.

If you did what I said last week and bought Yanda under 100k, you lost some coins as he never went up. I personally am out about 150k in paper losses if I sold them now

But we’ll get to that in a little bit. Let’s talk about how to make some coins off PH speculators

Fast coins but it takes some leg work

Sponsor: Damon Harrison, because he’s going to make us some coins

DT Set and cost to do it

Suh                       57000

MCCoy                 9000

Dareus                 7000

Donald                 6000

Hankins               9000

4 Elite Badges    60000

DT Badges           5000       On Wednesday/Thursday

25 gold DTs         30000

15 Elite DTs         45000    Wilfork is cheap

10 Specific Gold 15000

Total                      243000

Minus Reward   -25000

Total Set cost      218000

Damon Harrison is selling for 350,000 coins

HUGE Profit for a half hours work

Same thing with RG set I calculated last week. For some reason people aren’t doing the sets as they should to get the profit off of it. It is investors offloading their pieces instead of building the set. They don’t want to put in the extra effort. So we will and make bank.

If you buy the players that will go into each set, say one of each base elite and RTTP for a position before it drops you can make out even better.

So I originally said buy and hold these pieces. People have been doing that, buying the highest overall base/RTTP in each position and selling cheap due to competition. So now we take advantage of the many speculators, buy their pieces they’re selling off and profit ourselves. But again, watch the market trend as this method gets out there more.

I feel I should re-iterate this in most videos, buy players as they are in packs or toppers. Like Sunday’s flashback topper, guess what was low yesterday/today?

And players are always lowest a couple hours after a new hot bundle with a good topper is put on the market, ideally Saturdays when a lot of people are on.

The first time flashbacks were put into packs I bought right as they came out and sold 4 days later at a 40%-80% markup.

I wasn’t able to get on Saturday morning and buy but next time either flashbacks or throwbacks or combine or whatever is put in packs, look to snipe a player low, hold until they are out of packs and sell

 

How to decide when to buy a bundle

Look at the topper. Give yourself the average return you think you could get from it. If the topper alone is about 50% of the coins you could get from buying it off the black market at a rate of 9 dollars per 100,000 coins, I’d say that’s a good bundle. And this ratio changes through the year.

If you were with me at the beginning of Madden 16 you heard me talk about how buying bundles was better than buying coins at the time.

Well people did that, sold for cash and made a good bit of money.

But as people leave MUT for the year a lot of coins go up for sale, therefore making the coins cheaper to buy as the sellers progressively ask less and less cash for them.

The bundle that stands out to me most was the Black Friday bundle. Basically 80 dollars guaranting you 400k with Mean Joe Greene. This topper alone was more than 100% of the coins you could get from the black market. The last best bundle we got. Every topper since then has been under the black market unless you got lucky.

So for example lets go through this Xfactor bundle with a guaranteed flashback.

A flashback could be great or terrible, but let’s take a center value of around 200k. So you are paying about $70 for 200,000 coins plus the booty packs. So that’s about $35 per 100,000 coins. Pretty terrible. The thing about today’s packs were the silver tickets which drew a lot of people into purchases. But those were best found in pro packs I believe so it had little value to add to our calculation especially since they are so hard to pull.

I bet the next best packs we get are guaranteed Ultimate Legend Toppers. I bet we get Golden tickets in the next week then either the Easter promo or UL topper this weekend.

But I could be wrong, what do I know, I’m just a fox on the internet.

Comprehensive list of Madden Youtubers

Here are the Youtubers that are active and specialize or contribute videos to the Madden universe. Please let me know if I’ve left anyone off you think needs to be added. I think that Gutfoxx way at the bottom has something special about him. Not sure what though. Let me know what you think of the list of Madden Youtubers.

*Let’s Play Madden means gameplay from MUT, DC, CFM.

Name Subscribers as of 3-11-16 Speciality
Chris Smoove   2,878,530 Let’s Play – Madden, NBA 2k, others. Bundle Openings
QJB   656,041 Let’s Play – Madden, NBA 2k, others. Bundle Openings
Antodaboss   568,863 Let’s Play – Madden, NBA 2k, GTA. Vlogs
EA Sports   474,442 EA promotional videos
Cullenburger   404,654 Let’s Play – Madden, NBA 2k. Bundle Openings
Cookieboy17   388,970 Let’s Play – Madden, NBA 2k. Bundle Openings. Budget team
IMAV   386,260 Let’s Play – Various. Vlogs on many topics with family.
Lazarbeam   359,634 Madden Challenges, Gameplay, Other Random Games
ToKe   328,791 Let’s Play – Madden and Sports Games. Bundle Openings.
LostNUnbound   259,782 Madden Challenges, Gameplay, youtube collaborations
MrGoldenMut   162,562 Let’s Play – Madden. Bundle Openings. Madden News. Highest ovr team poss
TD Presents   150,558 Youtuber Collabs – Guess Whos. Bundle Openings. Gameplay.
Dcoop   130,808 Let’s Play – Madden. Bundle Openings
Wyza   126,513 WWE, Let’s Play Madden Franchise and UT. Bundle Openings
KayKayEs   92,867 Let’s play Madden, Challenges, Bundle Openings, Vlog, Other games
theflightmike   86,047 Let’s play Madden, Bundle Opening, 2k, other games
Maddenmastermind   82,044 Let’s Play – Madden. Not Highly active anymore.
Xryan915   60,528 Pack N Play, Market/coin making talk, Pack Openings, Card Impressions
Kouppa   48,110 Let’s Play Madden
Lunden   47,426 Pack Openings, MUT News
TexasBoy   45,798 Madden Wagers, Market talk, Tips, Bundle Openings, Card Impressions
maddendaily   45,418 Gameplay tips, Let’s play, Bundle Openings,
Kliquid   38,838 Pink Slips, Bundle Openings, Budget Team Tips, Card Impressions
iJoshify   35,289 Let’s play Madden, Bundle Opening
MakeItWayne   31,516 Let’s play Madden, Gauntlet, Madden Challenges
VictionaryHD   27,943 Challenges, Bundle Openings, Let’s Play, Madden News.
thecrayonsmelt   27,353 Pack Openings, Gameplay, Draft Champions Drafts, Pack and Go, Player impressions
Miguel “Gator” Lozada   26,912 Pack Openings
2Nice   19,351 Let’s Play, Bundle Openings
peter Jags   18,705 Pack Openings, Let’s Play, Game Predictions
TDBarrett   17,378 Let’s Play Madden, Challenges, Vlogs
Gmiasworld   16,943 Let’s play, Madden News, Seems to actually hate the game.
Madden School   16,268 Gameplay Tips
MaddenTalk   16,097 Wagers
DJRobbyRob   15,658 Bundle Openings, Draft Champions Drafts
ThatDudeSly   16,312 Let’s Play, Pack Openings, Guess Who, Wagers, Card Impressions, COD
zfarls   14,782 Madden Tips, Card first looks
themaddenlab   13,242 Gameplay Tips
big j gleez   9,671 Madden tips. Hasn’t posted Madden in quite some time though. >1 month
TheChickfilacowz   9,285 Let’s Play, Bundle Openings
S1L3NT Gaming   7,380 Pack Openings, Draft Champions Draft
TeKRaJ Gaming   5,149 Let’s play Madden, Pack Openings and Player reviews
MrZeddie15   4,149 Let’s play Madden, Touney games, Tips
dre plays   3,172 Let’s Play Madden, Bundle Openings, Game of Thrones reviews
ny_kia31   2,876 Let’s play Madden, live stream games and madden discussion, NBA, MLB
ProblemWright   2,098 Let’s Play Madden, player reviews
Gutfoxx   1,754 Literally everything related to MUT
Tino   1,651 Madden Player reviews, gameplay, Q&A
Jay Himself   1,477 Let’s Play Madden, Bundle Openings, Tips, Madden News
embrythegh0st   1,322 Top Ten Compilations, Madden Gameplay, Bundle Openings
Ish de’la Ish   996 Let’s Play Madden, Tips/ebooks, Bundle Opening, Player Reviews
Somerandomcracka   942 Let’s Play Madden, Madden theme teams
evanf1997   909 Let’s Play Madden, Card reviews, Coin tips
Me llamo bear   74 Madden Testing
iflash3   74 Madden Gameplay, Call of Duty

TheCrayonsMelt Interview

Timestamps
0:27 – What’s Crayon’s favorite Crayon, favorite to melt and how he got his name
3:16 – How long has Crayon’s been playing Madden and what his favorite year of the game was
5:28 – Did Crayon’s open as many packs in 25 as he did in 15?
5:46 – How did Crayon’s get into Youtube?
8:32 – How old is Crayon’s and how long he’s been with his wife
10:54 – Crayon’s initial subscriber boosts and how he’s taken off lately. What’s in store next for his channel and any new series?
13:14 – How Crayon’s met SilentGaming (https://www.youtube.com/user/vlizzolo)
14:42 – What Crayon’s does for a living besides youtube
16:17 – Crayon’s best video that hasn’t gotten enough attention. (http://youtu.be/DemDh8mBfo4)
17:27 – Crayon’s feelings on traits in MUT
24:44 – Why does Crayon’s like Madden 25 the best?
28:41 – Crayon’s guess for UL this weekend
31:07 – Why do they take Legend’s out year to year?
33:38 – Has Crayons wagered?
34:34 – Crayon’s thoughts on the 10 million coin wager
39:23 – What would you improve in madden if you could?
43:26 – Should Madden switch to 3 development studios like COD?
45:13 – Crayon’s offensive and defensive scheme
54:19 – Why did Crayon’s get into the Muthead forums?
58:28 – Any other youtuber’s Crayons wants to call out?
1:03:20 – last shoutouts

Relient K – The Crayons Can Melt on Us for All I Care: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd8ec…
Pack Odds in MUT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6dds…
Crayon’s Panthers Scheme video from 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSYXl…
My Tennesse Titans Scheme video for 16: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHMcE…
WheelzGaming: https://www.youtube.com/user/WheelzGa…

Alternate title: Does this fit? That’s what she said. Long description equals great description. Out of space. Time to die…