Madden 17 Meta Report – Offense – 12/12/16

The Madden 17 Meta Report aims to provide the community with the most popular plays run online. Whether to help your own scheme or to see what people run in order to help you stop it, the Madden 17 Meta Report can be used many different ways like God’s greatest creation, the spork.

And while it is a long list below it doesn’t come close to fully capturing every play run online. I along with other, better players thought these showed up more frequently than others. So if you have a unique scheme or have gone against one that isn’t on the list below, tweet me at twitter.com/gutfoxx and I’ll try and work it into the next report.

So let’s finish with the intro. Here’s what we think are the most popular plays run in online Head to Head. Special thanks to Owned at Worms and Embrythegh0st for helping out with some formation suggestions.

All art from EA and images from http://maddenfocus.com/

Plays Run In Multiple Formations

The chameleons of the Madden playbook, the first set of plays and concepts are seen in many different formations and sometimes run very differently based on adjustments and hot routes. You will see many of the concepts here in the specific formations I have listed further down.

Without further ado:

Bench

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To run this play you need to read the outside corners. Backed off CBs, go to the out routes, Hard Flat CBs, go to the corner.

Shut it down by having purple zones on top of hard flats. Although purple routes are broken like a married man’s spirit and don’t always cover the corner routes.

Four Verticals

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Anyone who played Madden 16 knows how to run this play. The crossing route is tough against man and zone and the RB gets a speed boost on his route here. There are many different ways and formations that run this. Find one you like and add it to the arsenal.

Many ways to beat it but 2 man under with a DE in a flat route and the user covering the crosser defeats it nicely.

Inside Zone

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An OP play in Madden 16, it’s still is effective in 17. It’s a better run when the HB is behind the QB. Many shotgun formations have this play as an audible and it’s a good audible to have, like our sponsor audibl…nevermind.  But I will say, the draw play below has quickly caught up to it as one of the top meta runs in 17.

Draw

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This play caught me and many others off guard as one of the biggest surprises from the Madden Classic tournament. We saw many competitors use the draw play to pick up good yards on the run. It should be an effective tool in your shed, except those sheds that come off blocks tend to shut it down.

Best used when an opponent is running overload pressure as the players dropping off the line on the opposite side of the blitz give you some nice easy yards to pick up.

HB Dive

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A simple tool for the uncomplicated man. Run it down their throats. Just make sure to pick the right hole. Oftentimes a struggle for many men. The throat hole is good enough here.

FB Dive

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FB Dive and it’s kissing cousin Fake FB Dive HB Toss are great tools to pick up a couple yards as well as a couple hate messages when spammed.

Stretch

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I don’t think anyone would disagree with you if you said the stretch was OP at the start of Madden 17. It’s been tuned down severely as of late but still it can get you some nice yards when the blocks set up. Be ready to cut inside if the force defender sets the edge too far up field.

HB Counter

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Absolutely broken at the start of Madden 17 when run in tandem with stretch, it’s effectiveness has also been tuned by the Madden devs in patches. There are still a lot of instances where if you don’t get a user to the hole or the blocks set up right regardless of what you do on defense, your opponent is sprinting for 80 of the easiest yards he’ll ever pick up.

Trail/Texas Routes

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A good way to mix up a user and pick up some yards. Though many top end users will bait you on the drag and go to the trail so watch yourself when throwing it.

Screens

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Improvised screens are dead since downfield blocking is, but these screens are often a nice tool to use once or twice a game. Watch the opponents user. Good to use when you know he’s gonna be looking for a deep post or corner route. Many games have been turned on a screen touched by an Urlacher, Barr or Shazier and run for 6 going the other way.

But with these plays you will often find yourself frustrated at your linemen not doing a wonderful job finding blocks. They aren’t as bad as non EA created screens (improvised screens) though. Still, improved downfield blocking intelligence needs to be an area EA looks at going forward.

WR Screens

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Great tool against zone coverage, the WRs actually lock on blocks. Get someone shifty to catch the ball and some good run blocking WRs or TEs to lead you to glory.

Mesh

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Double drags are really hard to stop unless cross manned. They can shade underneath or user them but you can counter that by going to the corner route/post or the other drag his user doesn’t cover.

Anything with a Z and/or wheel route (switch concept)

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A ‘Z’ Route is the route from the far right WR. It makes a Z looking shape. It gets in front of the deep safety in a cover 2 and 3. With enough time and finesse you can get it for a 1 play TD against cover 4. It’s a lot harder with less room for error in 17 vs. 16 but it’s still possible when you streak the WR on the inside.

You can also throw the wheel route quick against cover 3 or wait until it crosses over the top of the cover 2 flat zone for a significant pickup.

Corner Strike

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C routes are love, C routes are life. Any play with a C route on the field instantly becomes better. They kill man and many zones when thrown correctly. On this singleback formation look to the flats first. If they back their zones off too far when the ball is snapped. Easy 4-7 yards.

Z Spot

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Corner routes will be a theme of the meta report. In the singleback formation above you can streak the left TE for a clear-out and slant the left WR underneath. This gives you have quick reads to the right and the left.

Gun Split close

From here on out we’ll be going through popular plays in popular formations online. Many of the above are in these formations too but we won’t be going over many of them again. I did include a couple if I had more thoughts on them to give.

HB Wheel

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Skinny posts are hard to cover by the CPU. They need to be covered by the user so any time we get a “must user” route we want to exploit it.

So slant the far right WR and choose either to throw under the user with the slant or over him with the skinny post. The flat route and corner route make a nice flood concept. The flat route is usually open because most people leave their coverage on cloud flats and not hard flats.

PA F Slide

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I see this run both stock and by slanting the left WR to try and confuse the user by giving too many levels and crosses to cover.

WR Corner

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You don’t see this much anymore because the post and C route get too close to each other. This makes it more dangerous to throw with the amount of top end users out there.

FB Inside/Power O for runs

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The FB dive is only in a few PBs like the Steelers. So the main run out of split close is the Power O. It needs good run blockers and a patient hole finder to work.

Gun Bunch Weak

PA Post

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Post pattern again…notice a trend? C route on the backside to defeat man and get over the top of cover 2/3 flat zones and in front of deep zones. You can either streak the TE, drag him or leave him on the flat depending on what part of the field you want to exploit. If left on the flat, throw earlier rather than later.

Verticals

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Fade the inside WR, motion the wheel route out, wait until he fully sets, throw quick against cover 3/4, wait a bit against cover 2 and hit it over the top for a huge gain.

Best covered by manning up that outside WR and usering the post.

Z Spot

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Similar to the z-spot mentioned above but this one has a Z route on single WR which allows for a nice backside throw inside the CB and under the safeties with a down and right pass lead. You also have a corner and flat route on the right creating a sail concept and the delayed hook in is a nice check down.

Gun Bunch TE

PA All Cross

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Fade TE and watch the levels. Generally the drag route is going to be open first. Cross manning or a good user jumping from level to level like Mario works well against it.

TE Corner

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Posts and corners are a big part of the meta. So a play that matches the number of posts and corners to a Bengals fan’s IQ will give us a lot of options. It can be run a bunch of different ways besides stock:

  1. Motion the left inside post route to the outside left to give a post/corner concept on left.
  2. Streak TE on right, drag the corner, motion out the out route and slant it. Levels concept with a delayed slant.
  3. Motion the corner route on left to the right of screen, streak TE, in route out route, block HB and wait for the post to get behind cover 3 for 1 play TD
  4. Streak left post route, slant TE (optionally motion him out right.) Look for quick high pass to streak, then either out route and corner route and finally slant route coming across middle.
  5. Streak out route on left, drag TE for flood concept.
  6. Many other variations, it’s versatile play

Draw

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Great against guys who send pressure off an edge and drop linemen into coverage. Run to the guys that are falling off the LOS and you’ll pick up some chunk yardage like yards picked up my chunks in college. Okay that was a little too far.

But the draw is great for this meta of overload pressure. It works really well in Gun Bunch TE and it’s why I’m highlighting it again when it’s already been talked about it above. We saw this formation and this play run a lot in the Madden Classic.

Singleback Deuce Close

HB Wham

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A solid run play that traps the DT with the TE like a girl at the club with an Adam’s apple traps unsuspecting sailors. Will be shut down by a pinched d-line and sober friends.

PA Misdirection

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You can either leave it stock and look to the TE in the flats or run it with a few audibles. I use it 80% of the time with the TE on the left slanted, RB blocked then look slants to post pattern. But with the stock post and corner you have multiple ways to skin this cat.

TE Angle

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Block RB, reads in this order are quick high pass to streak, drag route, trail route, corner route.

User it by baiting drag route to trail route.

Gun Tight Offset TE – Rams/Saints playbooks

Rams Y Out

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Another play another post pattern. The TE out on the right destroys man coverage as it’s a speed out. I frequently run this play with the left corner in a slant, the right TE in a streak, motion out the drag and look to the levels concept and hit the post if the user is no where near.

Spot Corner

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Can be run stock or with minor adjustments. Reads for running it stock are flats, corner on right, C route on left, check down to WR in the middle.

Singleback Jumbo

Counter Wk

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Make sure you have good blockers out there at TE and WR. You also need speedy guards and tackles to pull. Wait for the blockers to engage and run behind them. I didn’t say this above but hold off right trigger until you are past the LOS.

Singleback Bunch

PA End Around

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It’ll never be as good as Madden 15 but the RB gets a nice speed boost out of the backfield. Look there first but if the guy is in cover 2 hard flat the TE is a great resource over the top. Just watch out for that pesky user.

Seattle

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You can copy the description here from the verticals in the gun bunch weak above. I won’t do that because it’s plagiarism but the plays are run almost exactly the same. Coming out of the singleback bunch just offers more variety to your offense.

Pistol Bunch TE – See video breakdown:

Verticals

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Watch the video above. Usually you want to slant the TE.

Against cover 2 it’s a one play TD with the wheel route WR. Against cover 3 you can slant the streaking middle WR for levels concept. Always take what the defense gives you. Even if that means going back and back to the HB drag route.

Strong Power

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Good mobility on your guards is essential here. Will Shields is not the guard you’re looking for. Usually run flipped to the WR side, you can leave it as is if they stack that side with defenders.

Cross Drags

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Crossing patterns offers levels concept. We’ve touched on levels frequently in the Meta report, avoid the user and you should be golden.

I form tight pair

Power o

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Power runs from I form seem to be the rage online. The pulling guards help seal off any run fits you might have in that hole. Backside pursuit and front side usering help to muddy the hole can effectively shut this down.

Full back dive (with the hurdle)

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We talked about the FB dive above, but this one is frequently run with a TE or HB that has over 90 jumping like Jimmy Graham. You can left trigger jump over the line and pick up an easy 4 yards this way. This type of run seems like it’ll be nerfed in a patch. A potential fix is to increase the fumbling chance to near what regular dives have now.

Counter

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The counter was touched upon earlier like a drunk uncle tends to touch you in the fun parts but I wanted to highlight it out of this formation because you see it out of this I form as much as you do out of other, similar formations like the singleback. It’s equally effective from both so watch out. A good user is needed to get in there to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

Gun/singleback Snugs

PA Cross

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This play is standing in for any play with that deep corner type route on the right. I see the route out of snugs a lot because of the streak distracting the user and the drag across the middle bringing the flats and purples downward. Anything with that sort of deep corner route kills cover 2. The light blues and purples do not cover it well at all. You can find this in the Steelers and Saints PBs to name a couple.

Gun Ace Twins

Levels Sail

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We’ve talked about the sail concept ad nauseum in the Meta report. The arrow out of the backfield is strong especially when combined with a corner route. You can motion over the Middle WR to the far side and streak him to act as a clearout but I don’t mind running it stock. Streaking the TE on the left and dragging/slanting the WR underneath is another good clearout read to make.

Posts

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HB angle routes are great. The post and corner routes also good. This play has a lot of what we like in 17, giving us pretty simple reads.

PA Verts

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Another formation, another one with verts. Slant the TE and baby we got a stew going.

In Conclusion

I hope you all enjoyed the first rendition of the Madden 17 Meta Report. Let me know what I can do improve it in the future. Comments below are helpful. Tweet me with any suggestions and make sure to check out my channel at youtube.com/gutfoxx and twitch.tv/gutfoxx to watch me run a full meta offense.

Gold and Silver count for MOTM promo – MUT 17 auction house series

These tables are to add to the above MUT 17 Market Monday video.

Team Number of affordable golds November December Gold count December gold Price 11-27-16
Seattle Seahawks 7 16 3200
New York Jets 17 17 1500
San Francisco 49ers 12 18 1900
Denver Broncos 13 19 1500
Indianapolis Colts 17 22 1500
Cleveland Browns 15 22 1400
Miami Dolphins 20 22 1700
Detroit Lions 20 22 950
Cincinnati Bengals 15 23 950
Los Angeles Rams 20 24 1500
Green Bay Packers 19 25 900
Pittsburgh Steelers 15 25 1100
Oakland Raiders 17 25 1000
Kansas City Chiefs 15 25 1900
Houston Texans 17 25 2900
Washington Redskins 23 26 1100
Buffalo Bills 17 26 1300
Arizona Cardinals 20 27 900
Chicago Bears 20 27 1000
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 27 27 800
New Orleans Saints 22 28 900
Baltimore Ravens 17 28 1000
Minnesota Vikings 20 28 1600
Dallas Cowboys 20 29 1100
Carolina Panthers 20 30 1000
New England Patriots 25 30 950
San Diego Chargers 25 31 950
New York Giants 15 31 1100
Tennessee Titans 24 31 1100
Philadelphia Eagles 21 31 1100
Atlanta Falcons 20 32 1000
Jacksonville Jaguars 27 38 950

 

Team Silvers in game Silver price 11-27-16
Arizona Cardinals 19 2300
Los Angeles Rams 20 1800
Green Bay Packers 22 500
San Diego Chargers 22 1000
Indianapolis Colts 24 1100
Pittsburgh Steelers 24 550
Chicago Bears 24 900
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 24 1800
New Orleans Saints 24 1000
Cleveland Browns 25 700
Cincinnati Bengals 25 700
Oakland Raiders 25 1500
Atlanta Falcons 25 550
Dallas Cowboys 26 900
Carolina Panthers 26 1000
New York Giants 27 600
Seattle Seahawks 28 500
Kansas City Chiefs 28 1400
New York Jets 29 500
Houston Texans 29 700
Tennessee Titans 29 1200
Jacksonville Jaguars 29 500
San Francisco 49ers 30 750
Denver Broncos 30 650
Miami Dolphins 30 2500
Washington Redskins 30 850
Baltimore Ravens 30 1100
New England Patriots 31 800
Philadelphia Eagles 31 650
Minnesota Vikings 32 1200
Buffalo Bills 34 700
Detroit Lions 37 400

Mut Monitor 11-16-16 – Madden Ultimate Team Weekly News

Apologies for any misspellings/bad grammar as this is the script I wrote for the video.

Alternate playbooks are coming in tweet from guru

RTTP dropped.

Chem Solos for Antonio Brown and Jadeveon Clowney

Tier 2 of elite chems came out this week so players with the elite chems shot up in price. On a day to day basis it’s looking like chemistries are getting more and more important.

Getting Season 1 competitive rewards shortly – although I’ve said that for 2 weeks so we’ll see. Maybe they’ll time it with Thanksgiving.

Last year we got the Thanksgiving promo 8 days before Thanksgiving. That date this year is the 16th, or Wednesday. So look for that promo this week.

Ocho Cinco aka Chad Johnson is coming to MUT. He tweeted and put on Instagram that EA was taking his likeness. So we can expect to see him soon in MUT.

Jason Kelce came to the game and has a new chemistry “Identified” which allows you to see who your opponent is usering. Many top end players have said that it’s a waste since they can tell already but from using it, and I don’t consider myself a top end player, but having it on is a huge help, on a similar level as conductor chemistry in my opinion. Kelce I believe is the best offensive linemen in the game and will be until a new one comes out with a similar identified chemistry.

Most Beard promo –

A miniature size promo with some special packs but no master set. But it’s okay because we follow the Khalisi and have no masters.

Overall I like the theme promo. Any suggestions for more themes? How about an all-steelers promo? From bronzes to elites, brand new Steelers players with Master Troy Polumalu. They can call it Pig Iron to Steel Splendor.

Team Hero’s and milestones. It’s looking like EA is following the lead of October and the first two weekend milestones for each month will turn our NAT elite Team Hero’s into sellable players with Milestones. Something to look out for investing in the future. But that’s more market Monday stuff.

Mid-Season Master is Josh Norman. Looks like he’s going for a pretty penny. It’s weird that EA didn’t require any head to head for him like they did MUT Master.

Badge Monster Rashad Jones

Legends Donovan McNabb and Ted Hendricks – MUT Guru had a tweet saying people were telling him McNabb was a trash legend. Even after retirement McNabb still gets booed.

And speculation that isn’t fully confirmed but Hot Hands might work if you user lock Urlacher at the start of the play on offense if you sub him in at TE.

The QB studder glitch is confirmed from Rex to be patched https://twitter.com/RexDEAFootball/status/798340548620914688

RTTP dropped. 100+ alternate chemistry players, new chemistry reward Carson Wentz.

New Tuesday night Hero’s for playing draft champions. Specifically ranked draft champions. If you 6-0 or 6-1 you get an Elite TND Badge. 6 of those and you get an auctionable player. New ones were released today including David Johnson, Chris Harris Jr. Ron Parker, Jordan Reed, Zach Brown and Justin Pugh. Usually these players are overpriced for their production. So if you pull one I’d sell it and pick up a cheaper alternate unless you are in love with the player.

Football outsiders coming Friday are:

CB Marcus Peters (FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS HERO): Game-winning forced fumble plus 4 passes defensed.

P Johnny Hekker, LARM: 7 punts for average of 51.7 gross yards and 50.3 net yards.

MLB Gerald Hodges, SF: Interception plus 4 run tackles of 2 yards or less.

RE Cameron Jordan NO: Led Saints with 9 combined tackles, including a sack and 2 run TFL, and 3 QB knockdowns.

RG Brandon Scherff, WAS: Washington RB gained 80 yards on 14 carries to the right side, with 64 percent success rate against a top-10 run defense.

EA also put a new pack in the store which guaranteed an 86 overall Aaron Rodgers with vertical chem to help you get your chemistry up. Is this a one time thing or can we start to expect EA to sell special promo packs that guarantee one player. I don’t have a problem with it. Seems better than the gamble we currently have with packs since we know what we’re getting.

We received new competitive players that take 110 to 120 badges, Both Tyrann Mathieu and Sammy Watkins.

And the upgrades to the NFL Veterans set but this set has been a disappointment this year.

We also got new flashbacks, signature players, football outsiders midseason rookies, just an overall explosion of new content.

TOTW

TOTW Elites get two Chems starting today.

LE’s get a ‘Double’ Chem.

Elites Two Chems (one elite, one base)

Golds an Elite Chem.

Hero is 93 Dez Bryant – A lot of people have said his stats are underwhelming. I’m one of them, but a lot of other people also said it

Eric Berry (Defensive Hero) – BCA Berry made a ton of plays for me. And he’s cheap now. This Berry is a slight upgrade but it’s worth is up to you.

Marcus Mariota (Offensive Hero) – A great card if you don’t throw the ball deep or run play action

Doug Baldwin – One of the better cards out this week. All around solid contributor. 88 speed and access, 91 route running, 66 run block with 89 and 90 spec and CIT. Just a jack of all trades.

Alec Ogletree A decent user. Otherwise I don’t love the low zone and play rec.

Ryan Mathews – Not much to love here. You can like a lot, but no love. Nothing stands out except his good stiff arm.

Darian Stewart – 86 seems too slow to play Free Safety

Preston Smith – Meh

Cameron Brate – Tall, but on the low end of speed and run block so I don’t love him

C.J. Prosise – His Silver was a budget baller. His gold has good speed but his elusiveness and trucking are too low.

Tony Lippett – Tall at 6’2, 88 speed and 88 zone. Not bad for a budget CB

Top Reddit posts of the week: https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/5cx3gy/chemistry_master_spreadsheet/

-bennettjd13 puts together a spreadsheet of what it takes to complete chemistry master. I suggest having a group of friends help by trading back and forth but if that’s not possible, the spreadsheet will be a valuable resource for you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/5c6gd5/my_detailed_investigation_into_when_i_think_the/

-ATL_Energy puts together a nice little investigative piece on when he thinks the RTTP and Thanksgiving promo drop

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/5cgsn7/upcoming_elite_chem_solos_purchasing_guide_money/

-NuckElBerg does a great job breaking down a day ahead of time what players are need to get the elite chems shown for the upcoming solos that I’m sure a bunch of you spent time to do.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/5clo9p/its_hard_to_believe_a_couple_months_ago_we_were/

-A nice little post about some perspective with the rush of new content that we were complaining about the slow months in MUT. I kind of liked it as it allowed us to get our bearing on the game before overwhelming us.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MaddenUltimateTeam/comments/5cmqka/what_a_beast/

-Showing off an almost perfectly upgraded Antonio Brown. 98 route running on that beast.